I could actually have justification to say "negatory"!

Posted on October 18, 2004 at 6:30 AM in 'Flying Lessons' with tags 'flying, flight_lessons, aviation, airplanes, cessna, pilot, license, rc'

Cessna 172 SkyhawkFor the last month or so I've had this insidious and steadily increasing desire to get back into flying, and finally get my pilot's license like I originally planned to do when I was 16 (because of the relative priority I gave to the idea, I remember musing that it was very likely that I'd find myself having a pilot's license but no driver's license — needing my parents to drive me to the airfield when I wanted to go up, hehe). Even the harrowing experience of landing in a light jet in tropical storm-force winds hasn't done much to allay my enthusiasm. As a recreational pilot, I can simply choose not to fly if the weather looks like it could turn ugly.

It would just be so cool to be able to file a quick flight plan and go up anytime you want. Of course, once again, I wish I were in the States; a private pilot's license there would be much more useful. The operating range of a Cessna 172 is 660 miles; in the US, there's quite a lot available within a 660 mile radius. I could actually consider GOING places. Here, there's not really much that's interesting within that range. It'd be perfect for making the short hop over to other nearby islands, which means I could go visit Rose in St. Thomas relatively easily, but aside from that, I don't know anyone on any nearby islands. So all I can really do with a pilot's license here is go out flying over the island sightseeing. That would certainly be fun and enjoyable, but it just seems like it'd be much more useful in the US. But I'll be back there before long, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to go ahead and get my license now.

The minimum number of hours required for a private pilot's license (or at least, as of eight years ago) is 40 hours with an instructor and 40 hours of solo time (Edit: Apparently I misremembered. Now that I'm actually taking flying lessons, I know that the requirement is actually a minimum of 40 hours total, with at least 20 of those hours spent with an instructor and at least 10 of those hours solo). I remember calculating that, taking into account plane rental, fuel costs, and instructor fees when applicable, that came out to a minimum of about $3500, which seemed completely unattainable on my $5/week allowance. Now, it's much more feasible, especially since the cost is spread out over the course of the weeks it would take to complete the training. So the financial aspect is no longer an impediment.

However, I face a different, seemingly insurmountable barrier — back when I was considering it the first time, my grandfather expressed his strong disapproval of my plan. He was convinced that small private planes are unsafe. A friend of his was out flying once and had mechanical problems and had to make an emergency landing in the middle of the island, which consists mostly of mountains. He was lucky to find a flat area which could serve as a landing strip. Anyway, because of this mistrust of small aircraft, he tried to convince me to give up my private pilot aspirations. When I remained steadfast, he turned to bribery. I forget how much he offered me — probably something like $50 — but I accepted and promised him I would give up my dreams of becoming a pilot.

I wonder how long that promise lasts. Is there a statute of limitations on such deals? Can I just give him back the $50? :) Realistically, I imagine now that I'm significantly older he wouldn't consider that original promise to hold, but I don't think I should just assume that without getting his feelings on the issue first.

Oh well, as an alternative (or perhaps as a stepping stone), I'm thinking of getting back into the safer, cheaper, and not forbidden hobby of R/C model airplanes. This is a field I do have some experience in, though not very illustrious. I crashed my first plane on its second or third flight out, and never got around to finish building my second. In fact, the partially assembled second plane was the primary component of the mess that occupied my bed for a year or so (you remember; the one that I didn't feel like cleaning up, deciding it was much easier to just sleep on the floor for that year).

So I'll probably get back into that, if I can find a local model airplane airfield. And perhaps later I'll have a talk with my grandfather and see how he feels about me starting training for a real pilot's license.

Comments

Posted by Jenn 3 hours, 48 minutes later

Small private planes ARE scary... but it would be rad if you had one! But where do you get the plane?

Posted by Dan 5 hours, 6 minutes later

Yeah, I'm not saying they can't be scary :) I wouldn't own a plane, at least not to begin with. What most people do is simply rent a plane when you want to go flying. Down the line it's definitely something I would consider, but planes are pretty expensive :) A 1973 Cessna 172 (one of the cheaper, most begginner-ish planes) costs around $30,000 nowadays. Even a 1957 Cessna 172 goes for around $18,000 (aircraft are held to much more stringent maintenance schedules than cars, so their functional and reliable service life is much longer). Still, I'd feel a bit like Jack Dalton from MacGyver if I bought a plane made in the '50s. :) I'd have to regrow my mustache to match. So anyway, it's not the kind of thing I'll be buying anytime soon :)

Posted by Bryan 4 hours, 35 minutes later

Well, it seems as though he had a pretty heavy concern in this matter. As far as him holding you to the promise: I would. It's sort of similar to asking you not to smoke.

As for giving the money back: You would have to give him the amount now that would be the equivalent of what it was to you then. You made 5/week then and he gave you $50. So, multiply your weekly income times 10 and that would be a rough estimate of how much you would have to give up to make a reasonable argument ($5000? :). He was persuading you then with an amount that was incredible enough to you at the time to make you give up your aspirations. I know it sounds pretty far-fetched and unbalanced but this isn't a financial transaction; it’s a promise that you made and now have the intention to break.

There is a pretty high risk flying in a private plane, but then again, everything has its risks. The important this is to be smart. With my parents being air traffic controllers, they used to tell me stories about stupid private pilots getting killed all the time. The fact is that 80 hours is not enough time to become an expert. All pilots start off saying "I would never do that". Otherwise, they would never get their license. But most of the deaths occur from tourists with lots of money convincing the pilot to do something incredibly stupid for an absurd amount of money (like fly over an active volcano). Just don’t be stupid :)

Posted by Dan 4 hours, 25 minutes later

Yeah, that's true. I guess I can't assume that he will agree the initial promise is null and void now. I guess I'd just try and convince him that I don't intend to do stupid things or take risks. Like I said, unlike a commercial pilot, I have no obligation to go up if things look dicey. I can simply say, "perhaps I'll just watch TV this weekend."

Hehe and yeah, don't worry, I have a healthy fear of falling thousands of feet to my death, particularly if "my death" here stands for "a boiling pit of lava." So you can rest assured I would not be taking any unnecessary risks :)